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Too Many Daves - the 'Nucks need a new Dave as Nonis cut loose

Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:32:19 -0700

TOO MANY DAVES - Dr. Seuss

Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave
Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave?

Well, she did. And that wasn't a smart thing to do.
You see, when she wants one and calls out, "Yoo-Hoo!
Come into the house, Dave!" she doesn't get ONE.
All twenty-three Daves of hers come on the run!

He of the perfect hair, the unheralded hockey career as captain of the Maine Blackbears, a law degree, and a noted contract expert is "relieved" of his duties {Nonis relieved of General Manager and Senior Vice-President}. Alas, as a life long Canucks fans (he and me both), I am sure he is far from "relieved" and likely quite frustrated, possibly embarrassed, and certainly thoroughly disgusted. He wasn't a perfect GM but also managed the team during a absurd lock-out, ongoing lawsuits x2, a messy ownership change and major front office personal changes.

It seemed to me, the GM, the owners, the coach and the players were a bit of an odd mix - also i am not seeing any brilliant young minds who can step into the gig with more valour then Dave. Some say he wasn't experienced enough or didn't have sufficient respect from other GMs to take get calls answered and deals done but, when you compare his performance to other GMs in flux (Leafs ousted John Ferguson, Sens Bryan Murray, Floraida Jacques Martin, Atlanta's Don Waddell) or consider the mess Doug Maclean made of the ill-fated Blue Jackets or Jay Feaster in TB or Milbury/Snow of NYI, Dave did a decent job. Unfortunately, when stacked against Detroit's Ken Holland, NJ's Lou Lamarello, Doug Riseborough of the Wilds, he didn't do enough to raise this team to the top.

I give some blame to injuries, a disconnect between coach's system and players' skills, and a legacy of mediocrity but those are part of the game.

BTW, anyone really thinking Ken Holland will leave the most-successful franchise of the recent era to ressurect the flailing Canucks just cause he's from Vernon is in need of reality check. Ditto on Brian Burke. Pat Quinn is more likely (Is Quinn back IN? by Ian Bell), nevertheless i am leery of going back in time to attempt to recreate lost magic. If Scott Bowman would take the gig though, i'd pay him whatever he wants - he's only won *everywhere* he's worked. Pierre Lacroix used to make some deal magic for the Avs but seemed to be a no-salary cap kinda GM.

Also, no matter who's at the helm, i am convinced the Canucks need to find a solid, money centre to build around. All successful teams have a clutch goalie (check), a steady, defensive-minded, somewhat intimidating blueliner (sorta check), and centre who wins faceoffs, skates well, knows hockey, and is a strapping - or at least durable - lad who can distribute and snipe as needed a la Lecavailer, Thornton, Sakic, Brind a'mour ... (no check) and, then a second line who can score and take advantage of 2nd tier defensive matchups (possible check). The rest of the team can slot in with the easier to find grinders, chippers, specialist, energy guys, PKers, and so on.

Right now, i'd trade anyone on the team for Malkin and Jordan Staal and rebuild around them. Since that won't happen, and i don't see much beyond could-be-good d-man and the possibly-a-sniper-but-undersized wingers and a string of "the next great goalie" the new GM has some work to do. The question is: How much of a rebuilding will we see this time around? The old core are gone to make money elsewhere without the drama and lofty expectations we foist upon them and everyone is tradeable i think including the suddenly holy Kesler, the belaugered Sedins, the gotta-be-pissed-off Luongo and all the 3/4 liners.

Rypien ain't gonna save the team, nor is Raymond, Brown, Bourdon or McIver. Sure Edler and Burrows over-performed and we all love a bargain but they aren't guys who will hoist a Conn Smythe (as cool as that'd be). No ones holding their breath for Grabner to fulfill expectations and Patrick White is a complete unknown and Schneider will take time. So where will the next Trevor Linden come from? Trade/FA or possibly a Restricted FA offer sheet (heh to RJ Umberger maybe). And old Markus Naslund - from yearly hero to persona non grata - has a all-time leading scorer ever been treated with such indifference and borderline scorn. My two-nie is on him playing for MoDo next year.

I'd very much like to know about Dave Nonis outside of recent Canucks exploits ~ learn who cuts his hair, what he studied at law school, what kind of player he is/was, who was his fave Nucks growing up, experiences in NYC, and the like but alas, Dave, we hardly knew ya.

For my part, good luck and happy times ahead to Dave.

All-time Canucks Dave Team

L Dave Balon

D Dave Baybch

D David Dunn

D David Fortier

C Dave Gagner

D David Logan

L Dave Lowry

W Dave Capuano

G Dave Mclelland

R Dave Morrison

D Dave Richter

L Dave Roberts

L Dave Saunders

C Dave Scatchard

L Dave Williams

GM Dave Nonis

The Pressure Cooker! - Canucks Outsider #61

Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:21:03 -0800

In the shadow of the NHL trade deadline, Dave ~ and several late night beers ~ bid farewell to Matt Cooke and examine other possible player swaps. Then after some tasty rockin', peers down the road ahead to the hectic schedule of "must-win" games, and recounts of visit with Kent of We are all Canucksleheads while recording with the Crazy Canucks and the Ultimate Canuck Search guys at the Canucks open practice who asked "Can-U-Nuck?".

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Music by:

Rodeo Kill - "Outlaw Country Band from Olympia, WA" Old Hank, Hearbreak away from Hell

Derek K. Miller - Striking Silver

Numbskulz - Wannabe

More Numbskulz:

Meet the Numbskulz - Choogle on #19

Catching Up with The Numbskulz - Choogle on #26

The Numbskulz Grow Up and Rock Out - Choogle on #55

All-Star Forecasting and Drinking - Canucks Outsider #60

Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:55:29 -0800

Canucks Outsider kicks off 2008 a little delayed but in grand style with Dave and Dan covering wealth of topics in-studio over all-star weekend. In between beers, topics include the recent Spengler Cup tournament in Davos Switzerland, World Juniors in Pradubice Czech Rep (and ask if Canada's domination is good for international hockey?), 2010 Winter Games hockey tournament format.

Moving on to the Canucks, they discuss the first half of the season in relation to expectations plus Markus Naslund's leadership, Luongo's Vezina chances, revolving defensemen, evolving line combos, regaining divisional intimidation, international beverages, and what's ahead in the South East roadtrip.

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Shifting into Gear, Sorta - Canucks Outsider #58

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:33:41 -0700

A slow turnaround and a quick edit for this episode of Canucks Outsider with DaveO enjoying a couple conversations with Dan Funboy - one before the home Red Wings game and another chunk from a week or two earlier before the game versus the Sharks recalling twin wins versus Oilers. Usual banter and wisdom about positions, linecombos, teamplay, faceoffs, with shoutouts to foreign lands - now fortified with Centre ice.

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Photo DaveO, arted up by Bread the Producer

Music by: The Numbskulz, The Black Angels, The Crimea, Derek K. Miller (penmachine.com), Bill Janovitz, Rambling Canuck

First Week Gone, Plenty to Come - Canucks Outsider #57

Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:06:23 -0700

With a couple of games in the bag, Dave and Dan Funboy comment on the loss versus San Jose, enjoy the OT win over Calgary, give props for Morrison's versatily and clutch-ability, ideas about a faceoff consultant, Luongo's knee and Cloutier's temper and legacy, thoughts on Sanford, and banter on Flames, Flyers and Oilers team building. Mentions of Andrew Cassels, Joe Juneau, Team Canada Junior, and the Predators' Mason, Trotz and Martin Gelinas.

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Toe to Toe with Chelios on St. Patrick's Day - Canucks Outsider #51

Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:36:42 -0700

St. Patricks Day Weekend bonanza begins with Dave O celebrating the win on HNIC vs Detroit and recounting a meeting with Chelios and teammates before catching up with Dan Funboy to recap OT games vs Blues and Wild plus review the Oilers situation over beers at the Cambie plus a quick visit with some Ultimate Fans heading out on the Seabus to make a video.

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Music by One Eyed Jacks from North Van and snippets from Vancouver's St. Patrick's Day parade

Album art photo by Dave O, design by Bread the Producer

Cup Crazy with Cowan at the Cambie - Canucks Outsider #50

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 01:06:22 -0800

As Vancouver celebrates Cowan's emergence as a scoring force and the bra-legend is born, Dan Funboy and Dave talk about the streaking Canucks and face-offs, prospects, penalty killing and more while enjoying winter ales at the Cambie Inn. Plus an idea from Darren Barefoot (featured on episode #27?) for a Google Map Mash-up of Canucks Pay Per View locations - possibly with reviews.

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Music snippets: "Fake out" by Derek K. Miller

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Thrashers Game Night Variety Pack - Canucks Outsider #49

Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:58:36 -0800

Revised Audio Repost - original slightly screwed up, this one less so, download again as desired ...

Grab bag episode with host Dave Thorvald talking trade deadline and pre playoff prognostication with transit-riding Dan Funboy plus some South East division insight to set up the game night at the Thrashers (thanks Mark) extravagnaza including copious history and pre-game skate analysis of callups, veterans and stars. Plus Dave checks in on the Jeff Cowan show vs. Gretzky's Coyotes with rec league dynamo Chris Bob Sugar.

Download Thrashers Game Night Variety Pack - Canucks Outsider #49 (44:11, 41MB, .mp3)

Music snippets: "Fake out" by Derek K. Miller of IHR (hear them review my beloved M Audio Microtrack) plus Bread and Av playing "$20 Bill" and Mark Olson playing "Flame."

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Blackhawk Thursday - Canucks Outsider #48

Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:28:30 -0800

Before heading off to the rink, Dave checks in with Amigo Chris AKA Bob Sugar to break down the convincing victory over the Oilers. Then, at the game, Dave rambles on abut the Hawks' rebuilding, Canucks' identity, Bieksa's mad fists, and discourses on beverage and hot sauce selection, while rocking out to the young rockstars Numbskulz and Soilent Green.

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Hockey Day Lambasting of the Leafs - Canucks Outsider #47

Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:18:33 -0800

During CBC's Hockey Day in Canada, Dan Funboy and Dr. O join Dave Thorvald to discuss the Canucks' recent success, All-star game voting formats, and Leafs fans, before enjoying the Canucks 6-1 win over the Toronto squad. They also reminise about old time hockey in Regina and the impact of NHL players on Canadian towns while enjoying the coverage from Nelson to Tigsnit.

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Music snippets from:

"New Years" from "Citrus" by Asobi Seksu
Friendly Fire Recordings Buy at iTunes Music Store

Randy Bachman Band "Prairie Town" (from live on KISW)

Oh Canada - recorded by DaveO at:

Dalai Lama citizenship ceremony, GM Place, singer unknown, Summer 2006
Canucks vs. Buffalo, GM Place 2005(?), Richard Loney (rules)
Governor General official visit, Oslo Olympic flag ceremony, Vancouver City Hall, March 2006

Crazy Canucks talk about the Streakers

Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:19:29 -0800

Gather 'round while the whole batch of Crazy Nuckers rollick through 42 minutes of banter, served up tasty as TCC#14 - Five game streak high.

During the winter of crazy storms, we - including Radio John, Miss Rebecca, J.J. Canuck and Alanah and Beyond (though she drops off, i still am on pace for the most disconnect +/- for the season. What's that trophy called?) - enjoy the streak and check in on Rory, Burrows, Green, Linden, Luongo, and Naslund while i (DaveOutsider) also offer some lengthy discourse on the South East and North West divisions, building teams for the playoffs, Sedins scoring off the rush, World Junior tournament ... among other things i've forgotten. oh yeah, we do some Canucks on the All-star team predictions.

Just roll on over to thecrazycanucks.com for more show notes and such or simply subscribe to the podcast for maximum handiness.

Festive Night at the Giants - Canucks Outsider #46

Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:11:01 -0800

At the Pacific Coliseum to see the Vancouver Giants vs the Everett Silvertips duing the festive season, Dave enjoys some wine in a box seat and reminices with Mark about Canucks games past, prospecting prospects, win versus Flames, teddy bear toss while enjoying some Vince Guaraldi, Dean Martin, and JFA.

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photo/art by Bread the producer

Long and Perilous Journey - Canucks Outsider #44

Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:04:40 -0800

In the 2nd intermission versus the Blue Jackets, Dave talks about seeing the Blackhawks game with Karl from Winnipeg on Grey Cup Sunday. Plus wins vs. Detroit, and drinkin' to forget the losses to Preds and Avs .

Moreover, an invite to Dave Nonis (former Cap'n of the Maine Black Bears) to chat over a beverage at the Queen's Cross and thoughts on the teams' ails,.

Finally, a thrilling opportunity to come on the show! Just give me 2 free tickets to the games vs. Canes, Thrashers or Lightning ;-)) and a few other gift giving ideas for a diligent podcaster.

Canucks Outsider #44 (25:07, 23.1MB, .mp3)

Fine tunes by Silversun Pick-ups "Well Thought out Twinkles" from KEXP's Song of the Day podcast, "Drinkin'" by the defunct Frequency db - check out Mastan Music hour podcast with Sam Densmore (and Jeremy Wilson), now of Silverhawk with John C. Densmore, and Bread the proucer with some grooves.

Halloween Week of Scary Games - Canucks Outsider #43

Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:50:02 -0800

Waiting for the Seabus, Dave catches up with a few game recaps (Washington Nashville, Minnesota, Colorado and Dallas) and chats about Jacques Lemaire's tan, Rolston's language, and identifies Canuck killers and recounts Nucks struggle to hold a lead and close out games.

Canucks Outsider #43 (24:16, .mp3, 22.4MB)

Plus he comes across a talented and enthusiastic busker named Clayton, playing the Wayne Gretzky montge song before heading across the inlet to the North Shore mountains to watch the Nucks take on the Ducks (insert foreboding organ music here) and encouraging a listen to Choogleon podcast.

More music in this episode by The (savant-like) Numbskulz of Pe Ell Washington and Sam Densmore of Portland, OR (also the co-host of Mastan Music Hour podcast and a recording engineer at Mastan Music).

Home At Last plus Dallas and Russian Stars - Canucks Outsider #42

Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:06:59 -0700

As the Canucks return from an epic Central/Pacific division roadtrip and prepare to face the Capitals at home with new giant scoreclock, Dave and Mark the Motivational Speaker discuss the first few weeks of the season including evident heart, grit and confidence.

Canucks Outsider #42 (.mp3, 28:48, 26.4MB)

More topics include Stars from Dallas (i.e. Turco, Morrow) and Russia (i.e. Ovechkin and Malkin) and weighted schedule woes, Buffalo heroics, halloween worthy hockey uniforms, Nashville preview, Mitchell's injury, Team 1040 radio props and request for FM simulcast.